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Public Lands Sell Off

May 20, 2025

The  majority of Americans oppose the sale of public lands – this is as a bipartisan issue as we have. Even so, the Trump Administration wants to sell off public lands in order to pay for tax cuts. 

In April, a last ditch effort to remove public lands sell offs from the budget process fell short. Now as our elected officials go through the process of creating the federal budget, public lands sales are in the proposed House reconciliation budget. Sell it and it’s gone forever. 

How did we get here and how do we get out of this situation? Louis Geltman, Vice President of Policy and Government Relations at Outdoor Alliance, joins us to explain. 

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Firing of Federal Employees

April 10, 2025

It’s come to be known as the Valentine’s Day Massacre. On Feb 14, 2025, thousands of federal employees were fired. So what’s happened since then? Tania Lown-Hecht, VP of Strategy and Communications for Outdoor Alliance, joins Fitz to break it down.