Two mountains, one in California and one in Nevada, named after the president of the Confederate States decades ago. How can a name be changed? Producer Fil Corbitt takes us through the wonky and lengthy process involved in renaming a place.

A version of this episode first appeared on The Wind Podcast.

Music: If Walls Could Talk by Jacob Bain & Nis Kotto  •  Wild Wind by John Berry  •  Ode to Mountains by People with Bodies  •  Ghost Dance by Ken Christianson  •  Nocturne Op. 9 No. 2 by Frederic Chopin  •  Delivered by Brendan O’Connell  •  Tracks provided by Free Music Archive or with permission from the artists.